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John, I have no personal interest in ASTD's certification programs. I think they are a good idea for people new to the field, and that some type of certification should be a baseline requirement for those with no experience, skills, or knowledge in the field so that organizations don't keep hiring people who can't do the basic training jobs. However, I don't think a certificate would mean much in the consulting world. Depending on your area of specialization, other things like specific experience, client list, advanced degrees, reputation, etc., are more important than certification letters.
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quote: Let's say that a trainer is hired to train employees on a site specific system (it was created by this company for this co.) However, no one knows how to utilize it. (And utilization of this system is pertinent/essential to the employees positions.) So the trainer has to learn the system and train the employees and then train all of their customers as well. On average, the trainer possesses as much experience in their chosen field as the employees do in theirs. I am inclined to believe that it isn't right to pay the teacher less than the student, particularly when the training is essential to the business strategy and viability. May be I am incorrect, but I would like to know the opinions of others in this forum?
Mandm, I don't understand your logic here. What if you were training HMO doctors how to use a new computer system? Who cares whether or not you are as experienced a trainer as they are doctors? There's no way you should ever make as much money as the docs - not as long as you remain a trainer. It just does not work that way. If you want a higher salary, go to medical school (as an example). |
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Respectfully, PK - the question still remains -- why would anyone expect others to provide their professional services for free? It seems to me that there is reasonable discussion and sharing and then there is the completely unreasonable. I tend to see primarily the latter - online and in work situations.
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quote: Originally posted by Fanatic Facilitator:
At the risk of completely alienating myself (as if I haven't already), I really am trying to understand why there are some people who seem to expect that experienced instructional designers should provide their hard work for free or practically free.
FF, What an interesting discussion. You know my jaw dropped the first time I saw some of the posts in this forum by people "new" in a Training manager position and wanting guidance on how to get started. I mean we all start somewhere but c'mon...kind of like "hey I'm a new mechanic here at the dealership can anyone tell me how to do an oil change"....geez...the other thought was how did this happen and God only knows how much their company spent on these people. I agree with Babzie, we are professionals here and many times alone in 1 deep positions fighting the machine in our own companies. We need someone to talk to and relate experiences. |
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