[QUOTE]Unfortunately, we don't yet have the kind of relationship to have a frank coversation. And, when people "see" his presntations, they're wowed.[QUOTE]

Civet, This answers my original questions to you. You've just said that this is a problem ONLY for you - not for anyone else. Why on earth do you want to waste time trying to change a person you do not even have a good relationship with? Why would you think you CAN change this person in the first place? And aren't there more important things for you to work on?

[QUOTE]You can tell this person all day long that ppt isn't solving any training delivery problems,[QUOTE]

Lundbird, we don't know that there is a problem here. All we know is that Civet does not like the PP presentations.

[QUOTE]Somehow, you need to measure the results of the training and eventually tie it back to the delivery method used in order to get him to realize that the training delivery is inadequate.[QUOTE]

Lundbird,

How would you do this?

The issue with PowerPoint is that it tends to make a training session all about the trainer, rather than about the participants. Training is supposed to be for the participants, right? When the presentation takes over, it's become all about what the person teaching has to "show and tell."

This tendency isn't surprising given how most of us were raised through the mechanistic, behaviorist, didactic public school system. That ought not mean we carry on the tradition.

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The issue with PowerPoint is that it tends to make a training session all about the trainer, rather than about the participants. Training is supposed to be for the participants, right? When the presentation takes over, it's become all about what the person teaching has to "show and tell."

First, Powerpoint is a tool, and as such it doesn't "do" anything except in the hands of the person using it. It's no different than a hammer lying on the floor.

What IS the case is that Powerpoint is very easy to misuse, and that in the hands of incompetent people, it's darned ugly, boring, et al.

But then again, so is any instructional technique from lecture through to roleplays to overheads subject to misuse.

http://thetrainingworld.com

Regrouping.

Of course it's just a tool. I suggest one focuses on the main point of the post to which one is responding lest one be seen as disingenuous, or even patronizing.

Ok, I'm going to take a step back and make some observations.

Civet-- You haven't stated what is wrong with the power points, other than they are "elaborate" and you think it takes a lot of time to make them. So, I don't understand, specifically, what your problem is. Is he requiring you to also make and use elaborate power points? Define "elaborate"? How do the learners respond to the classes?

I have seen very elaborate power points used effectively. VitalSmarts-- the company that trains Crucial Conversations-- has a very complex power point with imbedded video, a really slick menu, and excellent graphics. It probably took a lot of time to put together. But, it makes the integration of discussion, watching video clips, and moving through the materials VERY smooth. It's so very well done, it doesn't matter that it's a "power point".

So, what specifically about these powerpoints do you have an issue with?

I personally love power point when it's used well. It's so much more than bullet points. Or at least it can be.

So, let's get down to what your real problem is with his power points and how it is impacting YOU.