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Originally posted by Anu Sirauthia:
Hello CJ

Well if we give it a thought (a logical one ), then while reading or while listening the number of senses involved are fewer however if both are used for learning the senses involved are more. Therefore, the impact is higher.
Hope that answers your question...

Actually no. Research has shown that stimulus variation offers a greater payoff in an increase in attention and heightened comprehension and retention (1). And I'm not trying to debate if a stimulus rich learning is preferable. I am trying to find out if the claim of retention or learning from reading is really at such a low level. Logically, I'm having a hard time believing so.
(1)Telling Ain't Training. Stolovitch and Keeps.

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Originally posted by entropy:
Cj,

That particular notion has been around for quite a while...as a way to reinforce the value of creating richer learning environments. It still applies today as developers seek to create a rich media, highly interactive learning environment that accommodates different learning styles and calls different parts of the brain to action.

Yes, the premise has been around a while. But is it true? Or, are the facts being misrepresented in order to support a desired position?

Perhaps you should track down the author of the alleged "quote," alleged "facts," or whoever is "representing a falsehood as a reality." Let them defend the position.

Your own intuition and experience are telling you something quite different from the 10/20/30...etc thinking mentioned in your (original post. If you feel strongly about the role reading plays in computer based learning why not do some action research of your own...publish what you discover.

I appreciate that you are trying to do some of that research here with your post.)

I kind of hope you don't find the answer you are looking for

Adult learning theory tells me that different people learn differently. Take me, for instance, (boy could that open the floor for a lot of humor...): I love to read stuff. I learn well from reading. Plain audio is really ineffective for me most of the time. But if I speed it up 2x (working my way to 3), it can be a lot better. Why is for a different thread...

The point is that different people respond better to different forms of input. If people love to read, great. If they prefer audio, great. If they like to listen to what they are reading, or to what they've read, great. I would love to see research on finding out how individuals prefer to learn or how they have been most successful at learning and then comparing the individuals' preferred or believed successful styles to others to see if, indeed, preffered styles really do increase learning. The folks at Learning Stratages, Palu Scheele seem to have spent some time on this.

Of course, there are the whole brain learning philosophy and techinques, too. I think the 10/20/30 stuff is just way too simplistic.

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Originally posted by travelerjjm:
Adult learning theory tells me that different people learn differently.
The point is that different people respond better to different forms of input. I would love to see research on finding out how individuals prefer to learn or how they have been most successful at learning and then comparing the individuals' preferred or believed successful styles to others to see if, indeed, preffered styles really do increase learning.

I’m really not trying to get into a debate about learning styles and modes. On that topic I agree with Stolovitch and Keeps from Telling Ain’t Training. They write, “.humans are not as unique as we like to think we are. Research on learning indicated that there are significant differences in the way individual learners are affected by different types of instructional approaches; however the detectable differences in the research findings do not translate into a major overall impact on learning. We are alike in more ways that we are different.”

My goal is to verify or refute a long standing claim about the effectiveness of reading as a mode of learning.

Thanks,

Cj